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Hi all,

Sorry so many people complained about the online version for two reasons:

1) It did not handle Arabic characters accordingly. I needed to change a bit in encoding
2) It was not importing back successfully. As expected, it’s something to do with line breaks. I was making line breaking, but no carriage return.

Both issues are now fixed hopefully, and you can start converting much faster, and really FREE. No hidden costs

You can go ahead and try it here.

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You may have already heard about the Offline Java and Windows converter available. Some people are facing issues with either installing or running the program, especially the Windows version. Cross-platform compatibility also comes at a price. The Java version requires JRE 1.6, which has a considerable download time.

To provide a simplified and quick solution, we have also included an online converter version, where you simply upload your Contact Info CSV file, click convert and get the output converted file on the fly. There is a limit right now for 100 KB, which should be enough in most cases. My 16 KB file has over 300 records and numbers. If you have a larger file, you may want to consider the offline version.

You do not have to worry about your confidential information being stored anywhere. We do not store any information about you, or your file. The file is placed in temporary location for on the spot processing, and the output file is pushed immediately to the user.

If you are savvy enough with the online version, please just follow the steps below:

Important Notes

The service you are about to use processes CSV files blindly, and does not use country field to distinguish Kuwaiti from non-Kuwaiti numbers. Instead, it will process the file, and whenever a pattern of Kuwaiti number is found, it will convert it accordingly as a Kuwaiti number. Kuwait patterns are numbers like: 7 digits, 6 digits starting with 8, +965, 00965, and +00965. 3 digits numbers are still the same and will not be altered. If you have numbers of such patter in your list that are non-Kuwaiti numbers, especially the 6 and 7 digits, make sure you handle them separately later on, or take them out of the CSV file and recreate them manually. Your international dialing codes will be preserved in all cases. If you have +965 or any other prefix infront of your number, the converted number should still hold this prefix accordingly.

1. Synchronize your phone with your favourite PC address book software. This could be Microsoft Outlook, Outlook Express, or Mozilla Thunderbird for example.
2. Once done, export your contacts from your address book into a CSV (Comma Separated) file format, say contacts.csv. Make sure you remember the location of that file.
3. From the 8 Digits Converter Form below, Click on Browse and select your newly generated CSV contacts file, contacts.csv in our case, then click Open. (Max file size: 100 KB)
4. By default, all Kuwaiti phone numbers will be convertered. If you require only specific numbers to be converted, e.g. Wataniya numbers only, uncheck the unwanted prefixes, for example, MOC and Zain.
5. Click Convert. This process will take a while, depending on your file size.
6. If successful, you will be prompted to save the output CSV generated file. Save it to a new file name. Never delete your old file
7. Go back to your address book and delete all contacts.
8. Import the new contacts-8-digits.csv file back to your address book. This should create the same old contacts with the new numbering plan.

Terms Of Use:

8 Digits Online Converter is an online FREE service from Q8Ba7th.com that will help you update your phone contacts to the new 8 digits numbering plan coming to Kuwait October 2008. The web service is designed to overcome the problems of the offline versions, from compatibility, and download time, and instead, make the process a lot easier and faster. This ofcourse comes at the cost of uploading your contacts information to a public server.

Nevertheless, rest assure we do not store any information about the user, or keep the contacts information, or any part of it, onto our system. Once uploaded, your file is placed in temporary folder for processing, and the final output is pushed directly to the user.

The service is FREE to use, and is provided as is, use it at your own risk. Always keep a backup of your old contact information in case you need to get back to it. Conversion is done based on the officially announced new numbering plan in the newspaper, aided by further checkings with mobile operators. Should there be any mistake in the conversion, we encourage you to inform us about it.

The software is being provided absolutely FREE. Feel free to use it and share it, as you like. It was meant to help people do the transistion. We encourage people however to download the software directly from our site, to ensure they get the latest release with all the updates. Please note that you are not allowed however to do any modification on the code, part of it, change or add anything to it, or claim ownership of this product. You should not also try to use it for commercial purposes
like selling, rebranding or service providing.

While this software is FREE, and we believe will be important for many people to migrate to the new numbering plan, we are open for business owners who would like to discuss sponsoring this program, having their brand shown on the web page and software it self. If you like to sponsor this software, do send us an email at the address provided below.

Not Happy With Online Version?
We fully understand and respect the opinion of people who do not wish to send their contacts to a public place. In that case, you are welcome to try the offline versions. Our recommendation is to use the Java version.

Wataniya WBackup Converter

I believe all Wataniya customers got this SMS today about WBackup for FREE conversion of their numbers. It’s a pretty smart move from Wataniya to utilize the eight digits to promote and educate the public about their online backup solution, which I don’t think was selling pretty much before. I’m sure also Zain will come with their own solution pretty soon, but still late! If you want to give it a try, go ahead. Note however that WBackup is only FREE for 3 months, so you need to deactivate the service if you don’t wanna get charged.

While it might be a useful and quick way to convert, I have these points and concerns to preserve and think about before using it:

1. The service is about storing the contact information permanently on their system until you delete them.
2. I would double check if it converts all numbers or only Wataniya ones. Does it preserve the international dialing codes as they are?
3. Incompatibility: This is ofcourse an application based service you store on your mobile. A good large amount of handsets are supported, but still not all. iPhone for example is not in the list.
4. WAP Based: Does it mean I have to be subscribed and paying for WAP to use this service? This is double charging at the end.
5. Most Importantly: One thing I really hate about phone contacts is how each handسet uses it’s own contact fields. E.g, home number, work # 2, Home Fax. You go ahead and use those numbers, until you sync and move to a new phone, only to find out those numbers were not moved because they are not recognized by the address book or your new phone. Would WBackup be able to handle all kind of phone fields, or be missing some of them? When I designed the Eight Digits Converter, I wanted to avoid this problem, which is why the converter only looks for number, regardless of column name, you will still get it.

If you give it a shot, do let us know how it goes.

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Some people reported problems running the Eight Digits Converter Java version, getting the following error:

Exception in thread “main” java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/jdesktop/layout/GroupLayout$Group

For Geeks, problem was building GUI Apps using Java, the editor for some reason does not include some primary classes needed for the GUI Interface in the built JAR file, and those classes are not included in the Java versions by default.

For everyone, the problem is now fixed and you should be able to run the new version 0.1.1.

Please note I am not changing the file name in reaction to people linking probably directly to that file from their site, thus people will download the old release by mistake.

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If you are living in Kuwait, you should already know that by 17th October, the Ministry of Communication will start rolling out the new phone numbering plan, adding an extra digit to all 6 and 7 digit numbers as follows:

1. MOC 7 Digits Numbers: Add 2
2. MOC 6 Digits Numbers: Add 1
3. Zain Numbers: Add 9
4. Wataniya Numbers: Add 6

Zain is going to start their testing on 18th of this month for Zain-to-Zain calls, and reports say Wataniya have already started their testing. The testing period will wrap up 6 months as I know, during which both the old and new numbering plan will be working, to educate public on the new numbering plan, and start migrating gradually.

There is an awful lot of work and money being put by telecom companies, and all other corporates will need to be updating their customer contact information as well. But what about us the end users? Once the migration is completed, all our mobile contact information will be incorrect, and we will have to manually check each number, see for whom it belongs, and add the new digit accordingly.

Thus, I have quickly developed a tool for converting the old Kuwait numbers to the new ones. The software is available in two versions, Windows only (VB), and Java for all platforms. To avoid the hassle of developing the application for each phone differently as well, the program does not integrate with your phone at all. Rather, it expects your phone contact information in CSV (Comma Separated Values) file. The program will go through it, find Kuwaiti-patter numbers (e.g. 7 digits, 6 digits starting with 8, +965, +00965, 00965), and add the new digit accordingly.

Online Version: You can now try the online converter version without need of installing any additional software.

Download (Offline Version):

• Eight_Digits_Converter.jar (Version 0.3.0) – Java JAR File (All platforms) – Requires JRE 1.6
• EightDigitsConverter.zip (Version 0.3.0) – Windows Installer (Windows only)

For Java Version: Please make sure after installing JRE 1.6 that you set it as the first to use. For Mac, check the Java Application Runtime Settings. For Windows and Linux, check the path environment variables.

Instructions:

But First: Important Notes

The software in hand processes CSV files blindly, and does not use country field to distinguish Kuwaiti from non-Kuwaiti numbers. Instead, it will process the file, and whenever a pattern of Kuwaiti number is found, it will convert it accordingly as a Kuwaiti number. Kuwait patterns are numbers like: 7 digits, 6 digits starting with 8, +965, 00965, and +00965. 3 digits numbers are still the same and will not be altered. If you have numbers of such patter in your list that are non-Kuwaiti numbers, especially the 6 and 7 digits, make sure you handle them separately later on, or take them out of the CSV file and recreate them manually.

Also, if your contacts contains Arabic or non-English characters, please make sure you use UTF-8 format in your file. Unicode formats will not work.

1. Synchronize your phone with your favourite PC address book software. This could be Microsoft Outlook, Outlook Express, or Mozilla Thunderbird for example.
2. Once done, export your contacts from your address book into a CSV (Comma Separated) file format, say contacts.csv. Make sure you remember the location of that file.
3. From 8 Digits Converter, Click on Browse next to the Source File textbox field, and browse to your newly generated CSV contacts file, contacts.csv in our case, then click Open.
4. By now, Destination File should be already filled with same path as original, contacts.csv file, with a trailing 8-digits file name, e.g. contacts-8-Digits.csv. You may change this location if you like, but we suggest you keep it as it is.
5. By default, all Kuwaiti phone numbers will be convertered. If you require only specific numbers to be converted, e.g. Wataniya numbers only, uncheck the unwanted prefixes, for example, MOC and Zain.
6. Click Convert. This process will take a while, depending on your file size.
7. If successful, once done you will see a log in the designated area, and stats about the processed and generated file. A log file is also created for your future reference in the same directory with .log extension.
8. Go back to your address book and delete all contacts.
9. Import the new contacts-8-digits.csv file back to your address book. This should create the same old contacts with the new numbering plan.

Browse now and skim through your contacts. Make sure you all your contacts are there. If there is a problem, delete all contacts, and import the old file, contacts.csv, back to the address book to restore it to the original condition.

Terms Of Use:

8 Digits Converter is an offline FREE tool from Q8Ba7th.com that will help you update your phone contacts to the new 8 digits numbering plan coming to Kuwait October 2008. The applicaiton has two versions, Windows only, and Java to be platform independent, so you should be able to run it on your Windows, Mac, or Linux system of choice. The Java version however uses the latest Java version, so make sure you have JRE 1.6 or later installed on your system before you try to run it.

The software is provided as is, use it at your own risk. Always keep a backup of your old contact information in case you need to get back to it. Conversion is done based on the officially announced new numbering plan in the newspaper, aided by further checkings with mobile operators. Should there be any mistake in the conversion, we encourage you to inform us about it.

The software is being provided absolutely FREE. Feel free to use it and share it, as you like. It was meant to help people do the transistion. We encourage people however to download the software directly from our site, to ensure they get the latest release with all the updates. Please note that you are not allowed however to do any modification on the code, part of it, change or add anything to it, or claim ownership of this product. You should not also try to use it for commercial purposes
like selling, rebranding or service providing.

While this software is FREE, and we believe will be important for many people to migrate to the new numbering plan, we are open for business owners who would like to discuss sponsoring this program, having their brand shown on the web page and software it self. If you like to sponsor this software, do send us an email at the address provided below.

Also, please note this software is still in Beta, until we gather enough feedback and do enough testing. So if you find any bugs, or would like any further assistance, please do let us know by adding your comments here below, or sending us an email here.

Hope you find it useful. Happy Gergean from Q8Ba7th.com

Known Errors:

• Some people reported errors on Windows installer. We are checking that out right now.
• Java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Sorry guys. This’s been a mistake from my side. The JAR file was missing some core GUI classes and won’t run on all systems. (FIXED NOW)

UPDATES:

• 20-9-08: Fix for handling double quotes was applied
• 19-9-08: Both Java and Windows version gets update for version 0.2.0, allowing you to limit conversion to certain operator only. Since mobile operators are starting testing between their customers only, Zain and Wataniya users will need first to convert only their operator numbers. This release will help you do so.
• 18-8-08: Fix for Java version 0.1.1: Java version was not working on all platforms. Some missing classes were added.

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